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April 13, 2004

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mtpolitics

First, getting burglarized and now this?

Sheesh, welcome to Montana, huh?

I'm rather embarassed for our showing so far.

Sarpy Sam

Keep your heads up. The pin-headed idiots in this world don't speak for everybody. WELCOME "HOME" TO MONTANA.

Pandora

I too am embarrassed for all of us. Not only should we show respect to you as fellow Montanans but also as fellow human beings. I enjoy coming here and reading what you have to say. I am happy to have you as neighbors and friends.

extensive list

You spun my email to you.
What about the trails (more signs in the woods and I do not mean bear scat) you need to name as to not get lost? What of the "changes" you want to do to Montana? Hmm, me thinks you didnt get it. You were "asked" to leave, the other option would be to "let Montana change you" not the other way around. A compromise would be let your east coast use-it-all-up and tame-it philosophy to leave. Well?

Kim

Well, I'm embarassed. Really embarassed. I offer my hugs to you guys, and offer a big ol' "YOU ARE MY MONTANA NEIGHBORS" to you guys. I'm really glad that you're here. *hug*

For what it's worth, my parents came to Montana from New York. My mom originally came from Germany. *hug*

Lurking Reader

It seems clear that you are both very respectful and considerate people, and that this isn't about you but is rather a result of one individual's blind hate, without regard to the wonderful traits of the individuals he/she is targeting. From your blog, it seems that you've blended well with the Montana community and I wish you the best.

Autumn & Anthony

Thank you for your comments and support. We are touched, and grateful that just about all of our neighbors are as welcoming as you.

And thank you Neighbor for your continued interest in the blog. We worry that you have prejudged us, and if you keep reading you might find that we aren't here to "use-it-all-up and tame-it". Nor did we intend to "spin" your e-mails, and we are willing to post both of them in their entirety if you want.

Wulfgar

Holy cow, it seems everywhere you look these days you'll find someone just itchen' to be cantankerous. One of the things I've found most enjoyable about this website (and people newly moved to Montana in general) is that they have a real gut interest in learning and exploring this great state, often far more of an interest than those of us who've been here a while. I couldn't be happier than in seeing things anew through your eyes, Anthony and Autumn. So let me add my voice to the chorus of "Welcome".

SB

Well, I'm only a third generation, since my great-grandparents came over in covered wagons from Missouri. And I can claim no Native blood, which would certainly give me more right to welcome you --

Still, I do.

Patia

Seems like an awful lot of us would be packing our bags and heading to Europe if this land reverted to its "rightful" owners. But since we're all here, we may as well try to be at least respectful of each other's differences.

Expressing your opinion is one thing, telling someone to leave is another.

Frankly, it sometimes seems to me that the "outsiders" are often more protective of Montana, because they understand how rare and precious it is.

Randy

First off let me echo the rest of the Montana Blogger Brigade and our readers by saying that I am embarrassed by what you have been subjected to by "real" Montanans. I truly pray with all my heart that the atypical experiences you have had your first few months in our lovely state have not soured you on us.

You may want to post "extensive list's" emails in their entirety, that way they can't claim you are spinning their "message."

For what it's worth, I'M glad that your here.

Big Sky Dave

Wow. I'm pretty stunned that anyone could be so ignorant and loud-mouthed as to ask anyone to leave Montana - especially you two, who are intelligent, considerate, educated, and by all appearances and accounts, an asset to the state.

Rest assured - you ARE welcome here in Montana. And I will repeat what I have found to be true since moving here nearly two years ago: I have never - NEVER - met such friendly, honest people anywhere else in my life. Whoever sent this e-mail is DEFINITELY the aberration and should be ignored.

Benson

Must've been some e-mail and since I just found this blog, I'm sorry I missed it. However, as a lifelong Montana, I've seen the good and the bad - come and go.

Montana's and Montanans arms are open wide to one and all.

That being said, you must know that most Montanans are very traditional and very complacent. A lot of folks from this State do not understand the need for people to change what isn't broken. Montanans do not get 'hurt' by names. We do not look at people in terms of color, creed, race, etc. We look at people's hearts. If your heart is as pure as ours then why would anyone want to change anything about this State?

Just because political correctness is taking over the country, does not mean Montana is considered in the dark ages because we have not fallen into the fold. I think, Montana should be held up as an example of a civilized society that does not consider names when assessing the nature of another human being. I think we should be considered leaders in political correctness for not changing our names but for celebrating the heritage and tradition that established those names.

Not asking you to agree but just asking you to understand how some of us think.

Welcome to Montana

Anthony

Again, thanks to everyone for the cheers.

Benson, thanks for reading the blog. I think yours is an inspiring argument about seeing beyond the color of our skin to the content of our character, but I don't think we can write the name changes off to outsiders who think Montana is in the dark ages. More on this in an update to my post. Please keep up the insightful comments!

The Murphster

Wow! I never met anyone like that when I lived in Montana. Of course, I met Tony when I lived there, so go figure. Perhaps it's the Montana context of the discussion, but it reminds me of the meditations in Daniel Kemmis's book Community and the Politics of Place. Some people simply haven't learned how to live with others yet, and worse, some haven't yet learned that it is the shared experience of living among and accepting other people that makes each of us better in ways large and small. I'm certainly glad everyone else's reaction to the "go home" comment was the same as mine. Unbelievable.

Anthony

Murphster, welcome to our blog. Good to have you here. When are you going to get your own blog going? Until then, keep those comments coming!

dan

I heard about you from David and thought I'd share a quote I like.

"No one is so good that someone, somewhere, will not like them."

There are some people you just can't please.

Ed Kemmick

I've said it many times before and I'll say it again: Any damned fool can be born somewhere, but it means something to make the individual choice to settle in a particular place. Which action is more admirable?

Tony Lewis

One thing all of you miss is the fact the emailer kept his comments off the blog, whereas Autumn and Anthony put them on the blog, one is a personal inquiry, the other is a cry for help.
I think both of you were wrong in bringing it to your blog when it should have remained between you three. Oh, but Tony is a Lawyer.....

Anthony

Tony, thanks for reading and I'm sorry that you don't share your namesake's respect for lawyers (I mean the author of Gideon's Trumpet, not me).

We disagree. It doesn't matter whether someone tells us something by e-mail or on the sidewalk--we would hear it and react to it on the blog just the same. That's why most bloggers have policies deeming all e-mails publishable (we might too if we could figure out how to post such a notice on the sidebar). Blogs are about things we hear and see, and the e-mail at issue was one of those things.

Our critic chose to e-mail his comments instead of posting them, and for that reason we have neither identified him nor quoted his full e-mails. We offered to publish them, but he has not responded. If we had posted the e-mails in full, you would see that they were not "personal inquiries". They were insults that, while making what some may see as a fair point, did so in such ugly language that the author is apparently ashamed to stand behind his words publicly. As his more measured (but still anonymous) comment here shows, Sunshine usually disinfects rhetoric.

Here's our "cry for help" again: we welcome all comments, but ask that commentators show us the same neighborly respect that we try to show others. And if you catch us falling short of this standard, call us on it.

Tony Lewis

Wow, you guys are good. First, your befuddled by an email that says something about changing Montana or leaving, now, so timely, a quick note about Anthony's "heritage" and family farm that may go under. You both are twisted and much to concerned with winning. And your blog reads like the "yuppie diaries".

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